Do you think this is genetic ?

nomadicbunny · August 11th, 2009, 14:17

Well I am sorry if this topic was already posted. I am just curious if your fetish is a prodcut of your genetic predisposition or a result of an enviormental stimulus. That is, if you think that you think you are into L&C cuz your family members are (e.g. dad,brother etc.) or did something happen to you as a child to make you interested in this sort of thing.

Leobor · August 11th, 2009, 16:25

I dont think anything with a human behaviour is genetic.

winniethebeer · August 12th, 2009, 02:25

I dont think its genetic. Maybe we could have liked another thing (instead of being carried) and it would have become our fetish but we just got the taste of lift and cary before any other potential fetish. Like an addict who could be addicted to any of several drugs but became addicted to the first one he tried.

Liftme71 · August 12th, 2009, 18:57

I also think its genetic. You can read that 20% of the Men have female Brains so its often that these men have female minds and wishes. Mother Nature is strange.

winniethebeer · August 13th, 2009, 02:05

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Originally Posted by Liftme71

I also think its genetic. You can read that 20% of the Men have female Brains so its often that these men have female minds and wishes. Mother Nature is strange.

what do you mean by female brain?

Leobor · August 14th, 2009, 09:35

It doesnt make sense too me too.

Hokusai · December 30th, 2010, 00:12

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Originally Posted by Liftme71

I also think its genetic. You can read that 20% of the Men have female Brains so its often that these men have female minds and wishes. Mother Nature is strange.

I think generally is the individual matter of single persons but... in my casus it could be something. i feel that i have a little feminine personality. I'm a straight guy with strong thinking about myself as a male but in all stereotypes i' m more feminine. So.. maybe soetimes there's something in it
(sorry for not so good english)

ownsville · February 7th, 2011, 20:07

If it were genetic other people in my family would have it. And although I'm not inclined to find out what floats their boats in that department *shudder*, I think I'd have picked up on it since I became aware of it in myself.

I have to say its environmental. I attribute fetishes to a combination of neglecting sexual exploration at a young age (ie, when everyone else was finding out what pornography was, I was reading up on tanks and samurai and stuff like that), and the earliest sexual/erotic stimulation a person experiences - context and all.

I think people's sexual orientation and preferences are something that manifests later but are developed sooner. If you can imagine experiences at a young age "setting the ball rolling" subconsciously, it is only later in life that we make the link between activity x and...er, well, xxx.

As ever, just speculating on a hypothesis.

ownsville · June 22nd, 2010, 00:54

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Originally Posted by Leobor

I dont think anything with a human behaviour is genetic.

Right on, that way lies excuses and letting criminals and crap parents off the hook.

ownsville · June 22nd, 2010, 01:08

I think it's nurture, manifesting things at early ages is not evidence of genetic trends. In fact, I don't think there is data in our cells that can actually dictate 'preferring' being lifted or finding it arousing.

That's all stuff we pick up along the way, and that's not to say the ways we do so are not as mysterious or confusing as if they were lost in our genes somewhere.

We might be genetically predisposed toward seeking protection from a strong woman, maybe - but again, that's something that can be altered by different nurturing...I could run myself around in circles about this but basically your genes determine certain things (ie, they definitely had a hand in me hating maths and liking English at school, because I'm crap at one and ok at the other) and set the bassline for your nurture/development/learning. Your cells CAN'T contain data about sexual preferences, they only contain the desire to have sex - with something, anything. It's your nurture that determines whether you're raised left, right, up, down, straight, bi, bent, or just downright indifferent. If we didn't have nurture we wouldn't even be debating this because we'd all be having sex with whatever had a hole, like the species used to some millenia ago. I don't think they recognised L&C back then.

In fact, and if I may digress, I don't think L&C has been around as a sexual fascination for very long at all in the grand scheme of things - late 1800's at the earliest. The only instances I can think of it having any outlet to become anything more than a stunt at a travelling show were...well, travelling shows, I guess! Early 1900's you've got circuses and strongmen/women who used to do stuff like carry people around and it was a big deal because it blew gender roles out of the window. Then in the 50's/60's you get Virgil Crumb who kind of raised its profile in a camp/perplexing way and now we have youtube and the rest of the net and it's an obscure little club that's actually starting to slowly accrue momentum as people crawl out of the net and into the fetish. L&C probably saw a peak back in the eighties when muscle fitness was all the rage and you had loads of 'powerhouses' in both genders - cynthia roth-whatshername, Grace Jones (yeah, they weren't necessarily lifters, but there was that wave of "girls are as strong as guys" following Lundgren, Stallone and Schwarzenegger around hollywood).

There's a good topic to start if it hasn't been done yet - have we got any L&C historians here?

View Poll Results: You are into L&C most likely because .... ?
Genetic	24	23.08%
Environmental	43	41.35%
A combination of both	34	32.69%
whats... genetic ?	3	2.88%
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August 11th, 2009, 14:17	#1
nomadicbunny STANDARD Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 66 : 0 For This Post 171 Total	Do you think this is genetic ? Well I am sorry if this topic was already posted. I am just curious if your fetish is a prodcut of your genetic predisposition or a result of an enviormental stimulus. That is, if you think that you think you are into L&C cuz your family members are (e.g. dad,brother etc.) or did something happen to you as a child to make you interested in this sort of thing.

August 11th, 2009, 16:25	#2
Leobor VIP Honored Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Serbia Posts: 853 : 0 For This Post 1,765 Total	I dont think anything with a human behaviour is genetic. __________________ Girls are made to be m(c)arried.

August 14th, 2009, 09:35	#6
Leobor VIP Honored Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Serbia Posts: 853 : 0 For This Post 1,765 Total	It doesnt make sense too me too. __________________ Girls are made to be m(c)arried.

February 7th, 2011, 20:07	#8
ownsville STANDARD Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: UK Posts: 86 : 0 For This Post 18 Total	If it were genetic other people in my family would have it. And although I'm not inclined to find out what floats their boats in that department shudder, I think I'd have picked up on it since I became aware of it in myself. I have to say its environmental. I attribute fetishes to a combination of neglecting sexual exploration at a young age (ie, when everyone else was finding out what pornography was, I was reading up on tanks and samurai and stuff like that), and the earliest sexual/erotic stimulation a person experiences - context and all. I think people's sexual orientation and preferences are something that manifests later but are developed sooner. If you can imagine experiences at a young age "setting the ball rolling" subconsciously, it is only later in life that we make the link between activity x and...er, well, xxx. As ever, just speculating on a hypothesis. __________________ "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy" - Tom Waits

August 12th, 2009, 02:25	#3
winniethebeer VIP Honored Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,233 : 0 For This Post 8,803 Total	I dont think its genetic. Maybe we could have liked another thing (instead of being carried) and it would have become our fetish but we just got the taste of lift and cary before any other potential fetish. Like an addict who could be addicted to any of several drugs but became addicted to the first one he tried.

August 12th, 2009, 18:57	#4
Liftme71 STANDARD Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 42 : 0 For This Post 14 Total	I also think its genetic. You can read that 20% of the Men have female Brains so its often that these men have female minds and wishes. Mother Nature is strange.

June 22nd, 2010, 01:08	#10
ownsville STANDARD Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: UK Posts: 86 : 0 For This Post 18 Total	I think it's nurture, manifesting things at early ages is not evidence of genetic trends. In fact, I don't think there is data in our cells that can actually dictate 'preferring' being lifted or finding it arousing. That's all stuff we pick up along the way, and that's not to say the ways we do so are not as mysterious or confusing as if they were lost in our genes somewhere. We might be genetically predisposed toward seeking protection from a strong woman, maybe - but again, that's something that can be altered by different nurturing...I could run myself around in circles about this but basically your genes determine certain things (ie, they definitely had a hand in me hating maths and liking English at school, because I'm crap at one and ok at the other) and set the bassline for your nurture/development/learning. Your cells CAN'T contain data about sexual preferences, they only contain the desire to have sex - with something, anything. It's your nurture that determines whether you're raised left, right, up, down, straight, bi, bent, or just downright indifferent. If we didn't have nurture we wouldn't even be debating this because we'd all be having sex with whatever had a hole, like the species used to some millenia ago. I don't think they recognised L&C back then. In fact, and if I may digress, I don't think L&C has been around as a sexual fascination for very long at all in the grand scheme of things - late 1800's at the earliest. The only instances I can think of it having any outlet to become anything more than a stunt at a travelling show were...well, travelling shows, I guess! Early 1900's you've got circuses and strongmen/women who used to do stuff like carry people around and it was a big deal because it blew gender roles out of the window. Then in the 50's/60's you get Virgil Crumb who kind of raised its profile in a camp/perplexing way and now we have youtube and the rest of the net and it's an obscure little club that's actually starting to slowly accrue momentum as people crawl out of the net and into the fetish. L&C probably saw a peak back in the eighties when muscle fitness was all the rage and you had loads of 'powerhouses' in both genders - cynthia roth-whatshername, Grace Jones (yeah, they weren't necessarily lifters, but there was that wave of "girls are as strong as guys" following Lundgren, Stallone and Schwarzenegger around hollywood). There's a good topic to start if it hasn't been done yet - have we got any L&C historians here?