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Old December 29th, 2017, 23:31   #1
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Thank you for sharing this. I have had terrible experiences ordering customs before and I never knew about any forums where I could share my experience. It would be good to keep this thread going for people to share stories like this in the future.

As far as what you can do, a lot of it probably depends on how much you want to drag your personal life into it. I remember contacting C4S, since like you, that was where I had first seen the model, but they refuse to take responsibility.

If you kept records of email communications and wire transfers, you'd have legal proof they cheated you, but the sum involved probably doesn't justify getting a lawyer, etc, especially if you value anonymity, privacy. I think really the best way to prevent producers from doing this is to share your experiences in forums like this.
Thank you so much for replying and sharing your thoughts! I agree, I've thought about it and there's not really much I can do without dragging my personal life into it. It's just about biting the bullet, learning and moving on I do think this thread will be useful though for people who've had similar experiences so we know which sites/models to avoid!
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Old December 27th, 2017, 05:24   #2
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Model: Stefania Mafra...
I saw her in an L&C video posted on the stronggirls c4s site....I requested an L&C clip back in September for $180 (which I sent her on Paypal) and omg what a horrible decision. She's made a million excuses e.g. the other model canceling, her email not working, the hurricane in florida...then for the past three weeks she's continually claimed she already had the clip recorded and sent it but I never got it...I asked her to provide a screenshot as proof and to load it to C4S site and I'd purchase it but no dice.....
I want to know - has anyone else been ripped off by a producer like this? Is there anything I can do?
If you are ordering customs at clips4sale and you don't get your video. you can write to neil@clips4sale.com
Neil is the owner of clips4sale and they email to the store owner about complaint and if store owner do not resolve issue, they close the store permanently.
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Old December 27th, 2017, 23:48   #3
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If you are ordering customs at clips4sale and you don't get your video. you can write to neil@clips4sale.com
Neil is the owner of clips4sale and they email to the store owner about complaint and if store owner do not resolve issue, they close the store permanently.
Interesting. Is that a new policy? I had a similar issue to JSimoni's a couple of years ago (it was a eventually resolved and I got my video after several months) and I contacted customer service. Basically they told me that all custom video transactions were solely between the customer and producer, and not the responsibility of Clips4sale, which is just a platform for producers. I hope you're correct and that they're taking this issue seriously now.
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Old December 28th, 2017, 05:28   #4
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Interesting. Is that a new policy? I had a similar issue to JSimoni's a couple of years ago (it was a eventually resolved and I got my video after several months) and I contacted customer service. Basically they told me that all custom video transactions were solely between the customer and producer, and not the responsibility of Clips4sale, which is just a platform for producers. I hope you're correct and that they're taking this issue seriously now.
This is the active policy for the last several years. Just sometimes, the customer care representative may be new or non-responsive. However, Neil is always supportive. I'll advise you to place custom orders to the producers who have several models rather than model's operated stores.
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Thunder kittens are the worst. 6 yers ago I'have pay 300$ and never i see my custom. for months, every week they had reply to me:"next week, next week". Never shooting.
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Thunder kittens are the worst. 6 yers ago I'have pay 300$ and never i see my custom. for months, every week they had reply to me:"next week, next week". Never shooting.
Wow, that's outrageous
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Thunder kittens are the worst. 6 yers ago I'have pay 300$ and never i see my custom. for months, every week they had reply to me:"next week, next week". Never shooting.
that's horrible! I'm sorry you went through that. The experience I had with this model "Stefania Mafra" was very similar as well....weeks and weeks of promising the clip, claiming she already sent it etc. etc.
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Hi, friends, I tell you my esperience.
I?m a l&c lover and I commisioned a lot of custom videos in recent years.
I?ve spent a very large sum of money for bad or good videos (often bad, rarely good).
It?s true: there aren?t real l&c professional producers.
The few who do this job are inaccurate, careless, capricious: they are expecially fetishist who do what they like? with other people?s money.
Therefore I frequently asked to wrestling studios (wrestling sites are numerous and professional) to shoot some videos for me.
But Ashok is right: wrestling studios think that l&c is a sort of second-rate fetish? or even they "want believe and show" that wrestling be a "sporting discipline" and not a kind of fetish?
Useless also pay very well. My last custom video, for example, is unduly rushed and dimly lit.
Now I hope I hope we will soon have a new studio completely dedicated to lift and carry.
I think it can do business.
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Hi guys,

I made good experiences with Rapture. I ordered some f-f-clips with Rapture and a tiny girl with special lifts (front, under armpit, by the waist, under elbows and overhead). All clips (7) were good, with all lifts and nice girls, Rapture is very powerful. Some of these clips are later in clips4sale (with Asia and Krissy). They are 10 minutes and round about 700 Dollars. But very nice clips and I am waiting maximum 2 or 3 weeks
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If you are ordering customs at clips4sale and you don't get your video. you can write to neil@clips4sale.com
Neil is the owner of clips4sale and they email to the store owner about complaint and if store owner do not resolve issue, they close the store permanently.
Thank you for sharing! Unfortunately, I did not purchase this on clips4sale but this is DEFINITELY a great piece of information to know for the future.
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