Dunehands, here to say!

[Far]

Originally Posted by robert

With all due respect and appreciation towards people who are producing L&C content but one essential problem is here and I cannot understand the reason and that's the price of the clips.

Why do you thing a content -by the definition of the entertainment business- is worth almost 1$ per minute?! As a fan of L&C I'd consider spending money for my interests as long as it's worth it. There are tons of free stuff out there on the Internet -and increasing- which potentially could fulfill my desire. Regardless of the quality and being costume scripted which is quite important,but why would I pay 5-10$ for a 4-10min clip then?

I'am pricing my clips approx same as other producers, I can price them 3 times lower and still keeps in business...but it's not reasonable and isn't fair to other producers

[robert]

Originally Posted by Far

I'am pricing my clips approx same as other producers, I can price them 3 times lower and still keeps in business...but it's not reasonable and isn't fair to other producers

It's not fair to the customers either! What you're saying is basically the lack of competition in the business. Variety of producers should be ended up in higher quality/lower price like any other businesses, but what I've been observing through years shows no fluctuation but just fixed pricing.

Wouldn't you decrease the price if it leads to an increase in sales which practically makes more profit?

[Lifter]

In the end it is our decision to buy or not to buy the vids. I think thy are very reasonably priced, Robert. I don't understand what your issue really is apart from making them cheaper. But most vids of all types of fetishes are priced in the same range. Seems to be the norm.

[Far]

Originally Posted by robert

It's not fair to the customers either! What you're saying is basically the lack of competition in the business. Variety of producers should be ended up in higher quality/lower price like any other businesses, but what I've been observing through years shows no fluctuation but just fixed pricing.

This is a specific business, it not like selling Vodka) pricing approximetly 1$ per minute popular not only for L&C clips, almost all fetish categories priced the same. Also, you must remember, that selling adult content requeres using sites like clips4sale, which takes huge comissions(40% on c4sale, f.e.)

Originally Posted by robert

Wouldn't you decrease the price if it leads to an increase in sales which practically makes more profit?

A time ago, when I was selling clips via kinkbomb.com, I has a discount system up to 40% off for multiple orders, but only few customers used this offer. Decreasing price isn't working in this business.

[phoneman]

Originally Posted by robert

It's not fair to the customers either! What you're saying is basically the lack of competition in the business. Variety of producers should be ended up in higher quality/lower price like any other businesses, but what I've been observing through years shows no fluctuation but just fixed pricing.

Wouldn't you decrease the price if it leads to an increase in sales which practically makes more profit?

I have a suggestion. Go into the video business and set up whatever pricing you want. See, isn't that simple? It is obvious that you have discovered a business where you can make a lot of money by overcharging people. Go for it.

[Lifter]

Originally Posted by phoneman

I have a suggestion. Go into the video business and set up whatever pricing you want. See, isn't that simple? It is obvious that you have discovered a business where you can make a lot of money by overcharging people. Go for it.

Well said, Phoneman!

[robert]

Originally Posted by Lifter

In the end it is our decision to buy or not to buy the vids. I think thy are very reasonably priced, Robert. I don't understand what your issue really is apart from making them cheaper. But most vids of all types of fetishes are priced in the same range. Seems to be the norm.

Hey man,kudos for your amazing work so far!

Of course,pricing is the main issue for a customer whether they are diaries or multimedia products and as a customer I'm always seeking for a cheaper price. That's for sure.

About the bold part,you have your point and that's also a fact having a major influence on the whole business.

Originally Posted by Far

This is a specific business, it not like selling Vodka) pricing approximetly 1$ per minute popular not only for L&C clips, almost all fetish categories priced the same. Also, you must remember, that selling adult content requeres using sites like clips4sale, which takes huge comissions(40% on c4sale, f.e.)

Shout-out to you as well man, keep up the good work.

I don't reckon having competition in the business and decreasing the cost would be only specified to liqueur business mate There are differences for sure but as a main concept, demanding lower price is absolutely normal.

Bold part: You are right man, my issue mostly refers to those producers who sell their clips on their own websites.

Originally Posted by Far

A time ago, when I was selling clips via kinkbomb.com, I has a discount system up to 40% off for multiple orders, but only few customers used this offer. Decreasing price isn't working in this business.

I guess that's not enough data/statistics to make such a conclusion out of it but at the same time it gives me a perspective. Maybe customers tend to buy them one by one rather than packing bunch of them at once. Not considering myself as "Statistical Population" but I personally prefer having them purchased one at a time.

Originally Posted by phoneman

I have a suggestion. Go into the video business and set up whatever pricing you want. See, isn't that simple? It is obvious that you have discovered a business where you can make a lot of money by overcharging people. Go for it.

I don't know why do you have a bit of passive aggressive approach here, but I have no intention to show the producers thieves who try to rip us off what so ever. Although at the same time I think based on mentioned factors, pricing -at least by now- should've been a bit lowered.

P.S: As a matter of fact I am an entrepreneur, having my own start-up about Digital Business Card. I am pretty aware of how a business works. Cheers

[Far]

Originally Posted by robert

Bold part: You are right man, my issue mostly refers to those producers who sell their clips on their own websites.

f.e. my "own" website is based on IndieBill, thats take their fees too(not so huge like c4s, of course)
also, if you want to buy clips, but they seems too expensive, you always may try to communicate with producer directly and get discount, it's just a hobby for most of us and money isn't main thing))

[wilk1978]

Considering that the overwhelming majority of fetish producers won't make any lift and carry content outside of custom orders, we should be grateful to those producers who make lift and carry clips out of a genuine passion for the genre. There are not many of them left these days.

Whether a 10-minute clip is sold for $5, $10, or $15 seems kind of insignificant (and I don't say this as a wealthy person, trust me . If you think that clips are priced too high, you should also consider that many of the clips you find on sites like Clips4sale were order by customers (some of whom are members here) for far more money than you are paying.

[Lifter]

Once again, two great clips from Dunehands. For those of you who like sleeepy/unconscious, GG 5 is for you. Truly awesome update!