History of Lift and Carry

ownsville · March 10th, 2011, 21:08

Anyone else interested in tracing the origins of this fetish?

* If only to pre-empt the inevitable shoot-down, I'll feel like a right plonker if someone says "not really".

Mettalican5000 · March 12th, 2011, 08:26

Just wondering, your profile picture, do you happen to have a clip with that video by any chance?

jlcircusrider · March 12th, 2011, 12:01

It is my view that the desire goes back in to anciant history where no records exist, however, it may be possible to trace the point that it was formally called L & C.

An interesting thought

ownsville · March 20th, 2011, 22:46

Regarding my pic, unfortunately no, I'm not even sure where I found this, I've been loafing around the net for a while. It's why I don't upload anything, I have no way of backtracing my archives and most of what I've got would probably be reposts anyhow.

The reason I'm interested in the history of it is, it seems very much to be an emerging thing - coinciding with the takeoff of the net. I can think of a number of interests it links to, there has always been a male fascination with the whole "females as hunters/warriors/etc" thing. But specifically lift and carry? I want to know when that became erotic and how I wound up with it.

Not that I think of it as a disease. I just have no idea where it came from!

bravesirrobin · March 20th, 2011, 23:59

As I'm sure is the case with most sexual deviations lift and carry has been around for most of human history, and there are some recorded examples. I remember reading, (I can't remember where, maybe in one of the old forums) about Marco Polo's account of a princes palace where all the men were piggybacked by women during parties. I am sure there are many examples throughout history of such practices both out of sexaul desire or expedience (e.g. the wives of sailors who would piggyback them to their boats in order that their boots wouldn't get wet).
In terms of how it developed, I guess one needs to turn to psychoanalysis and Freud to look at how the studies of sexuality and various perversions came about. I remember reading one theory (also probably posted on a previous forum) which suggested that when one a child and gets an erection and is being carried at the time one might see the experience of being carried as the cause for the erection and so a mental connection in established.
My guess is there is plenty of space for research both into the development of the fetish and how it has been regarded across history.

vk · April 3rd, 2011, 15:22

About Marco Polo :

I think this issue was already discussed in an older forum but not in such bright and exciting terms. There are several different versions of Marco Polo's book. One of them tells that a king was carried by girls in the gardens of his palace. But the text does not explain in which way he was carried. It could be on their backs or it could also be in a palanquin.

About sexual deviation :

I prefer the term of "erotic fantasy". A child confusely feels that sex exists but ignores the way it works. So the fantasy comes from a misinterpretation of sex. Foot fetish is frequent maybe because adults are taller than children so children often see their feet.

chapeaudude · October 17th, 2011, 16:38

[QUOTE=ownsville;54064]Regarding my pic, unfortunately no, I'm not even sure where I found this, I've been loafing around the net for a while. It's why I don't upload anything, I have no way of backtracing my archives and most of what I've got would probably be reposts anyhow.

there is no video, that was from crazycarries and was taken some years ago. One of the greatest FF sites ever, but whatever man, they rarely posted videos, and didn't listen to their fans (Gripe!)

Bbwbearhug · February 8th, 2020, 19:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by ownsville

Regarding my pic, unfortunately no, I'm not even sure where I found this, I've been loafing around the net for a while. It's why I don't upload anything, I have no way of backtracing my archives and most of what I've got would probably be reposts anyhow.

The reason I'm interested in the history of it is, it seems very much to be an emerging thing - coinciding with the takeoff of the net. I can think of a number of interests it links to, there has always been a male fascination with the whole "females as hunters/warriors/etc" thing. But specifically lift and carry? I want to know when that became erotic and how I wound up with it.

Not that I think of it as a disease. I just have no idea where it came from!

Have you tried reverse image searching your profile picture?

jmva93 · March 8th, 2020, 18:34

Thanks for the info. I will post to comply with the rules!

dasiotemo · October 16th, 2011, 17:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlcircusrider

It is my view that the desire goes back in to anciant history where no records exist, however, it may be possible to trace the point that it was formally called L & C.

An interesting thought

I agree to that thought. The history of L & C includes the strong women in
the Greek and Scandinavian mythology who carried men: Amazons and
Valkyries for example. Once I saw a picture on an ancient Greek amphora
that showed a drunken man (or Greek god?) who was carried by a woman.
The great TV programm "Wonder Woman" referes to that time even if the
lifts might be fake.
IMO it was no kind of "fetish" at all, in ancient centuries.Back in history there were many occasions when a man was lifted by a woman. When he was injured in a war or fight.

Generally I think, a woman lifting a man mostly is pure fun for him and her, nowadays.

March 10th, 2011, 21:08	#1
ownsville STANDARD Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: UK Posts: 86 : 0 For This Post 18 Total	History of Lift and Carry Anyone else interested in tracing the origins of this fetish? * If only to pre-empt the inevitable shoot-down, I'll feel like a right plonker if someone says "not really". __________________ "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy" - Tom Waits

March 20th, 2011, 22:46	#4
ownsville STANDARD Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: UK Posts: 86 : 0 For This Post 18 Total	Regarding my pic, unfortunately no, I'm not even sure where I found this, I've been loafing around the net for a while. It's why I don't upload anything, I have no way of backtracing my archives and most of what I've got would probably be reposts anyhow. The reason I'm interested in the history of it is, it seems very much to be an emerging thing - coinciding with the takeoff of the net. I can think of a number of interests it links to, there has always been a male fascination with the whole "females as hunters/warriors/etc" thing. But specifically lift and carry? I want to know when that became erotic and how I wound up with it. Not that I think of it as a disease. I just have no idea where it came from! __________________ "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy" - Tom Waits

March 8th, 2020, 18:34	#9
jmva93 STANDARD Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 17 : 0 For This Post 1 Total	Miscellaneous Thanks for the info. I will post to comply with the rules!

March 12th, 2011, 08:26	#2
Mettalican5000 VIP Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 255 : 1 For This Post 97 Total	Just wondering, your profile picture, do you happen to have a clip with that video by any chance?

March 12th, 2011, 12:01	#3
jlcircusrider STANDARD Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: lONDON uk Posts: 34 : 0 For This Post 12 Total	It is my view that the desire goes back in to anciant history where no records exist, however, it may be possible to trace the point that it was formally called L & C. An interesting thought

March 20th, 2011, 23:59	#5
bravesirrobin VIP Honored Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 300 : 3 For This Post 1,942 Total	As I'm sure is the case with most sexual deviations lift and carry has been around for most of human history, and there are some recorded examples. I remember reading, (I can't remember where, maybe in one of the old forums) about Marco Polo's account of a princes palace where all the men were piggybacked by women during parties. I am sure there are many examples throughout history of such practices both out of sexaul desire or expedience (e.g. the wives of sailors who would piggyback them to their boats in order that their boots wouldn't get wet). In terms of how it developed, I guess one needs to turn to psychoanalysis and Freud to look at how the studies of sexuality and various perversions came about. I remember reading one theory (also probably posted on a previous forum) which suggested that when one a child and gets an erection and is being carried at the time one might see the experience of being carried as the cause for the erection and so a mental connection in established. My guess is there is plenty of space for research both into the development of the fetish and how it has been regarded across history.

April 3rd, 2011, 15:22	#6
vk Administrator Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 626 : 0 For This Post 138 Total	About Marco Polo : I think this issue was already discussed in an older forum but not in such bright and exciting terms. There are several different versions of Marco Polo's book. One of them tells that a king was carried by girls in the gardens of his palace. But the text does not explain in which way he was carried. It could be on their backs or it could also be in a palanquin. About sexual deviation : I prefer the term of "erotic fantasy". A child confusely feels that sex exists but ignores the way it works. So the fantasy comes from a misinterpretation of sex. Foot fetish is frequent maybe because adults are taller than children so children often see their feet.

October 17th, 2011, 16:38	#7
chapeaudude Account Disabled by Request Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Germany Posts: 46 : 0 For This Post 28 Total	[QUOTE=ownsville;54064]Regarding my pic, unfortunately no, I'm not even sure where I found this, I've been loafing around the net for a while. It's why I don't upload anything, I have no way of backtracing my archives and most of what I've got would probably be reposts anyhow. there is no video, that was from crazycarries and was taken some years ago. One of the greatest FF sites ever, but whatever man, they rarely posted videos, and didn't listen to their fans (Gripe!)