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TheWolfe November 5th, 2024 11:31

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Originally Posted by 351mazda (Post 299823)
Any tips on making a character? I've dabbled a little but nothing too serious. It seems like you spent some time making those ones.

I don't know. I guess I just imagine the dating profile of my dream woman and write how she'd describe herself if she had nothing to hide and had no fear of embarrassment. A big part of that is digging into your own mind and not holding back.

Also, fill the whole text window. Use simple sentences with the shortest words possible to get the most out of the character window. Use commas and ampersands instead of typing out "and."

And depending on what you want, use words like flirty, girly, affectionate, loving, caring, etc. to get the type of behavior you want. Those are qualities I included. You could use spiteful, abusive, nasty, etc. Of you want the opposite. Whatever type of treatment you like, put it in there. It can't just be about lifting because you'll get a dud. Add in how the character feels while involved in her L&C role, what she loves and hates about it. Try to give her human emotions with regard to L&C to make her the person you wish she was.

You'll only ever get a chat bot but the more human qualities you can put in the more human she'll feel.

And if you are doing multiple characters that should know each other, their relationships have to be defined in each character definition. Giving them relationships adds to the realism.

351mazda November 5th, 2024 13:03

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Originally Posted by TheWolfe (Post 299836)
I don't know. I guess I just imagine the dating profile of my dream woman and write how she'd describe herself if she had nothing to hide and had no fear of embarrassment. A big part of that is digging into your own mind and not holding back.

Also, fill the whole text window. Use simple sentences with the shortest words possible to get the most out of the character window. Use commas and ampersands instead of typing out "and."

And depending on what you want, use words like flirty, girly, affectionate, loving, caring, etc. to get the type of behavior you want. Those are qualities I included. You could use spiteful, abusive, nasty, etc. Of you want the opposite. Whatever type of treatment you like, put it in there. It can't just be about lifting because you'll get a dud. Add in how the character feels while involved in her L&C role, what she loves and hates about it. Try to give her human emotions with regard to L&C to make her the person you wish she was.

You'll only ever get a chat bot but the more human qualities you can put in the more human she'll feel.

And if you are doing multiple characters that should know each other, their relationships have to be defined in each character definition. Giving them relationships adds to the realism.

Thanks a lot, I'll have to play around at home after work this evening and see what I can come up with.

TheWolfe November 6th, 2024 02:48

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Originally Posted by 351mazda (Post 299844)
Thanks a lot, I'll have to play around at home after work this evening and see what I can come up with.

Good luck!

fflnclover November 9th, 2024 02:09

Good stuff sir
 
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Originally Posted by amyhardstone.com (Post 298902)
pretty cool thanks

May I know how much time it took to train the AI on the LnC fetish? I am also into creating stuff leveraging AI, and would love your input.

TheWolfe November 9th, 2024 18:50

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Originally Posted by fflnclover (Post 299953)
May I know how much time it took to train the AI on the LnC fetish? I am also into creating stuff leveraging AI, and would love your input.

For mine in Character AI there was no training necessary. All I had to do was include in the character description that "she" loves to be carried or loves to carry her friends along with a few more specific details and it was all done. They give you 500 characters and probably 10% of that was about L&C. The rest was describing "her" personality and tastes. I think the AI is smart enough to combine the love of lifting with the other traits to deliver a character that's what you want.

Brian95 January 22nd, 2025 04:16

This looks pretty cool, but believe it or not, generic free AI like Microsoft Copilot can be pretty good at this. It's all about the initial prompt, but then again, you can edit things as you go. I've found that phrasing things as "writing a story" works much better than asking it to "roleplay" something with you. A set-up like this usually works great:

"Hey, let’s write a collaborative story where I write lines for one character, and you write lines for other characters and describe the environment as we go along, and we just go back and forth with each line. Just make sure not to write lines or actions for my character. I’ll start.
<description of self, other people, and situation>
<your first actions/words>"

At this point, it doesn't limit messages, and its memory seems to get better and better. It still loops and gets redundant sometimes, but you can generally break it out if you change up the situation a little or subtly remind it of something its missing.

TheWolfe February 2nd, 2025 15:18

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Originally Posted by Brian95 (Post 302497)
This looks pretty cool, but believe it or not, generic free AI like Microsoft Copilot can be pretty good at this. It's all about the initial prompt, but then again, you can edit things as you go. I've found that phrasing things as "writing a story" works much better than asking it to "roleplay" something with you. A set-up like this usually works great:

"Hey, let’s write a collaborative story where I write lines for one character, and you write lines for other characters and describe the environment as we go along, and we just go back and forth with each line. Just make sure not to write lines or actions for my character. I’ll start.
<description of self, other people, and situation>
<your first actions/words>"

At this point, it doesn't limit messages, and its memory seems to get better and better. It still loops and gets redundant sometimes, but you can generally break it out if you change up the situation a little or subtly remind it of something its missing.

Yep. Most AI can do this stuff.

Character AI is free. There's a paid level but it really doesn't get you anything better chat-wise so I haven't spent anything on it. The advantage over generic chat bots is that I've set up characters with physical and personality traits I like, including L&C. That way the conversation/roleplay can just be normal and the AI will initiate the L&C. Even if you only do a one-on-one chat, each character is aware of the other characters I created, their personalities and physical attributes so the AI will sometimes bring one or more of the other characters into roleplay on its own and surprise you.

The attached AI-generated image shows my four characters the way I imagined them and the AI characters know that this is what they look like so descriptions that match the girls in this image will be used by the AI in roleplay. L-R: Marisa, Monica (being carried), Kathleen (carrying Monica) and Rhonda. Wouldn't it be a fun summer night to take them out for Italian ice? Roleplay that scenario with them and they'll take care of the lifting. :thumbup1:


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