custom L&C orders - good and bad experiences

JSimoni · December 21st, 2017, 20:16

Model: Stefania Mafra...
I saw her in an L&C video posted on the stronggirls c4s site....I requested an L&C clip back in September for $180 (which I sent her on Paypal) and omg what a horrible decision. She's made a million excuses e.g. the other model canceling, her email not working, the hurricane in florida...then for the past three weeks she's continually claimed she already had the clip recorded and sent it but I never got it...I asked her to provide a screenshot as proof and to load it to C4S site and I'd purchase it but no dice.....
I want to know - has anyone else been ripped off by a producer like this? Is there anything I can do?

Far · December 21st, 2017, 22:13

My opinion about customs is very easy: no customs - no problems)

wilk1978 · December 23rd, 2017, 13:03

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Originally Posted by Far

My opinion about customs is very easy: no customs - no problems)

Well, unfortunately, besides you and maybe a couple of other producers, almost nobody produces quality lift & carry content anymore EXCEPT as customs, and not all of us have the financial/professional/personal resources to hire models + photographers to shoot our own videos.

dendrin · December 24th, 2017, 00:21

I do feel customs are important to introduce new producers to lift and carry and give them awareness that it can be a money making avenue for them. There are definitely some bad seeds though. I'm going to sticky this thread and can use it as a source point for both good and bad experiences with customs.

Lora Cross · November 13th, 2022, 14:27

I completely agree! I got introduced to this fetish and fell in love with it...initially through one custom buyer who would order lift and carry customs with all the models i shot with! The other girls loved it too!

grim_evil · August 24th, 2023, 18:05

Hello All,
I have to share my bad experience with studio Paris Love Kink. I am pretty sure she cheated me. I requested her for a custom content on 19th June for 100$ but I didn't receive my clip until present. She doesn't send any answer to my two previous mails. I asked the support of clips4sale and I get this mail: "Clips4Sale is not responsible and has no control over studio owners’ business transactions that occur outside of the Clips4Sale website, this includes custom clips.

To try and resolve the issue we suggest that you contact the company used to send the payment to the studio or the studio themselves.

If your issue is with a clip you purchased through Clips4Sale please provide us with the Sales Order Number so that we can better assist.
Regards,
Clips4Sale.com"

Any idea what to do?

WWE4Life · December 24th, 2017, 02:53

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Originally Posted by wilk1978

Well, unfortunately, besides you and maybe a couple of other producers, almost nobody produces quality lift & carry content anymore EXCEPT as customs, and not all of us have the financial/professional/personal resources to hire models + photographers to shoot our own videos.

I don't think that's entirely true. Savannah Fox, Rapture, Janira Wolfe, Dunehands, Alexis Rain, and others are all making good lift and carry videos.

Dave

wilk1978 · December 26th, 2017, 13:09

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Originally Posted by WWE4Life

I don't think that's entirely true. Savannah Fox, Rapture, Janira Wolfe, Dunehands, Alexis Rain, and others are all making good lift and carry videos.

Dave

Dunehands I'll give you, I remember reading on their page that they don't take custom video requests. I'm not familiar with some of the other producers, since I'm less interested in mf or models with bodybuilder type physiques. But I'm curious what makes you so certain that the L&C clips these producers are making are not custom videos.

JSimoni · December 29th, 2017, 23:39

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Originally Posted by wilk1978

Dunehands I'll give you, I remember reading on their page that they don't take custom video requests. I'm not familiar with some of the other producers, since I'm less interested in mf or models with bodybuilder type physiques. But I'm curious what makes you so certain that the L&C clips these producers are making are not custom videos.

Here's my two cents on this whole customs thing - I'm sure we all have our own preferences within this broad fetish world of L&C. Personally, I prefer videos containing mostly f/f cradle lifts with the liftee wearing a short skirt, legs exposed. I feel like most of the material out there for purchase on c4s doesn't really meet this criteria so I feel I've been forced into purchasing customs to get what I want. I would love to hear from you guys (especially f/f fans) of what sites/stores you've had good/bad experiences with?
For me, the good:
Dani Picas
Akira Shell
Lory passionate fantasies
Skylar rene

wilk1978 · December 23rd, 2017, 12:58

Thank you for sharing this. I have had terrible experiences ordering customs before and I never knew about any forums where I could share my experience. It would be good to keep this thread going for people to share stories like this in the future.

As far as what you can do, a lot of it probably depends on how much you want to drag your personal life into it. I remember contacting C4S, since like you, that was where I had first seen the model, but they refuse to take responsibility.

If you kept records of email communications and wire transfers, you'd have legal proof they cheated you, but the sum involved probably doesn't justify getting a lawyer, etc, especially if you value anonymity, privacy. I think really the best way to prevent producers from doing this is to share your experiences in forums like this.

December 21st, 2017, 20:16	#1
JSimoni VIPOS Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 83 : 1 For This Post 959 Total	custom L&C orders - good and bad experiences Model: Stefania Mafra... I saw her in an L&C video posted on the stronggirls c4s site....I requested an L&C clip back in September for $180 (which I sent her on Paypal) and omg what a horrible decision. She's made a million excuses e.g. the other model canceling, her email not working, the hurricane in florida...then for the past three weeks she's continually claimed she already had the clip recorded and sent it but I never got it...I asked her to provide a screenshot as proof and to load it to C4S site and I'd purchase it but no dice..... I want to know - has anyone else been ripped off by a producer like this? Is there anything I can do?

December 21st, 2017, 22:13	#2
Far VIP Honored Join Date: May 2016 Location: Russia Posts: 439 : 1 For This Post 763 Total	My opinion about customs is very easy: no customs - no problems) __________________ Welcome to my Lift and Carry videostore: www.RuedelStudio.com Clips4sale store: https://clips4sale.com/studio/116146

December 24th, 2017, 00:21	#4
dendrin Administrator Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 4,002 : 1 For This Post 11,020 Total	I do feel customs are important to introduce new producers to lift and carry and give them awareness that it can be a money making avenue for them. There are definitely some bad seeds though. I'm going to sticky this thread and can use it as a source point for both good and bad experiences with customs.

November 13th, 2022, 14:27	#5
Lora Cross STANDARD Join Date: Jun 2022 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 12 : 5 For This Post 53 Total	I completely agree! I got introduced to this fetish and fell in love with it...initially through one custom buyer who would order lift and carry customs with all the models i shot with! The other girls loved it too!

August 24th, 2023, 18:05	#6
grim_evil STANDARD Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 80 : 0 For This Post 243 Total	Hello All, I have to share my bad experience with studio Paris Love Kink. I am pretty sure she cheated me. I requested her for a custom content on 19th June for 100$ but I didn't receive my clip until present. She doesn't send any answer to my two previous mails. I asked the support of clips4sale and I get this mail: "Clips4Sale is not responsible and has no control over studio owners’ business transactions that occur outside of the Clips4Sale website, this includes custom clips. To try and resolve the issue we suggest that you contact the company used to send the payment to the studio or the studio themselves. If your issue is with a clip you purchased through Clips4Sale please provide us with the Sales Order Number so that we can better assist. Regards, Clips4Sale.com" Any idea what to do?

December 23rd, 2017, 12:58	#10
wilk1978 VIP Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 324 : 2 For This Post 671 Total	Thank you for sharing this. I have had terrible experiences ordering customs before and I never knew about any forums where I could share my experience. It would be good to keep this thread going for people to share stories like this in the future. As far as what you can do, a lot of it probably depends on how much you want to drag your personal life into it. I remember contacting C4S, since like you, that was where I had first seen the model, but they refuse to take responsibility. If you kept records of email communications and wire transfers, you'd have legal proof they cheated you, but the sum involved probably doesn't justify getting a lawyer, etc, especially if you value anonymity, privacy. I think really the best way to prevent producers from doing this is to share your experiences in forums like this.