What goes into making a video?

[rflcblue]

Originally Posted by tragmich

Ok. I?ll contact you later. I have a hectic time at work right now, but I hope to find more free time later in June.

Yes, of course, I have no hurry. I just had a thought and was not ready to discuss it at once. I wish you good luck at work.

Originally Posted by rflcblue

Yes, of course, I have no hurry. I just had a thought and was not ready to discuss it at once. I wish you good luck at work.

HI! rflcblue. Firstly I must say that you have done some amazing work on www.shecarries.com . I was planning to purchase videos from your site today but could not purchase it as it is not accepting the purchase. Can you tell me how to purchase videos from your website. Secondly I am willing to work with you as far as producing videos is concerned. I am a great fan of ff lift and carry. I am passionate about lift and carry. Do let me know how we can work together. You have made videos with some lovely ladies. Hope to hear from you soon.

[rflcblue]

Originally Posted by ganju90

HI! rflcblue. Firstly I must say that you have done some amazing work on www.shecarries.com . I was planning to purchase videos from your site today but could not purchase it as it is not accepting the purchase. Can you tell me how to purchase videos from your website. Secondly I am willing to work with you as far as producing videos is concerned. I am a great fan of ff lift and carry. I am passionate about lift and carry. Do let me know how we can work together. You have made videos with some lovely ladies. Hope to hear from you soon.

I am sorry, ganju90, I have stopped it for it was not viable (...more details in my long post some sites ago...). The website with pictures and samples is still online, but you cannot subscribe any more.

Originally Posted by rflcblue

I am sorry, ganju90, I have stopped it for it was not viable (...more details in my long post some sites ago...). The website with pictures and samples is still online, but you cannot subscribe any more.

Can u post those videos on clips4sale so that anyone who is interested can buy them.

[MistressTaylor]

Originally Posted by filmguy

As per the debate over in the M/F lifts myspace video links thread, there doesn't seem to be a lot of clarity for some users as to why they SHOULDN'T distribute videos. I think the big problem that leads to copyright infringement is people just flat out don't understand the process that goes into making videos.

Thanks for asking this question. I went through this thread with my partner and have a few comments.

Rflcblue's rundown of the 10 bullet points to producing and distributing videos is as good a list as any I could make. Some of those points are weighted differently for different producers like any producer that exclusively distributes through clips4sale doesn't have to deal with payments, web design, hosting considerations and a few other factors. That comes at the price of 40% off the top going to clips4sale though.

Most of the models I use are professional fetish or porn models and their hourly rates are less then most Fbbs or Amazons but I have to pay agency fees of $100 - $150 per girl for each time I shoot her(What a racket the agents have). When I shoot an L&C handjob or anything else with hardcore the models expect to be paid a set amount for that scene regardless of how long it takes to shoot or how long the final video ends up plus the agency fee of course. To give you an idea of how much I have to pay them consider that the guys in those clips get $200 - $250 just for that one video.

One thing that I do more work on and spend more money on too is wardrobe and sets. Because I shoot so many different fetishes and some of those like BE and Gts Growth actually involve clothes being destroyed(so I often need 2 sets of identical outfits) I have to have complete wardrobe available for each and every model. Thats MUCH MUCH MUCH harder then it sounds. Think about all the different size and shape models I shoot and for each of them I usually go through 5-6 wardrobe changes minimum and that doesn't include all the clothes that they tried on but didn't like the way they looked in it. When I was in the biz and getting hired by different companies I showed up on set with 2 suitcases full of clothes so the directors had lots of choices. I guess those days are gone because most of the time the model shows up with just the clothes she's wearing or sometimes she'll have a bikini in her purse as her one piece of "wardrobe".

I have a few more replies to other posts in this thread but I'll have to do that later because I'm heading out to Goodwill and then the Outlet stores right now because of a shoot I have scheduled for tomorrow.

[rflcblue]

Originally Posted by ganju90

Can u post those videos on clips4sale so that anyone who is interested can buy them.

I know that clips4sale is very popular within the community. But in this thread we wanted to look at the background, so let?s do this. If I would offer a 10 minutes clip for 10,-Dollars (or Euro) they take 40% (look also at Mistress Taylor?s post). OK, that are 6,- Dollars (or Euro) for me. Then I have to ask my tax accountant, if I have to pay sales tax (in Germany 19% at the moment). Anyway I have to pay income tax, maybe 30-35 %. That means 4,- Dollars (or Euro) at most remaining for me (I cannot draw off the costs for I had loss for the past 3 years and then the fiscal authorities don?t accept this anymore; they tell you it?s just your hobby, you don?t intend to make profits at all).

At the moment I feel like I have done my contribution to this theme. Sometimes I am a little bit sad, but even more I am glad that I put down business. Besides it is better for the concentration on my regular job (?which finally financed my activities).

[winniethebeer]

Taylor dont forget to continue your post here!

Originally Posted by rflcblue

I know that clips4sale is very popular within the community. But in this thread we wanted to look at the background, so let?s do this. If I would offer a 10 minutes clip for 10,-Dollars (or Euro) they take 40% (look also at Mistress Taylor?s post). OK, that are 6,- Dollars (or Euro) for me. Then I have to ask my tax accountant, if I have to pay sales tax (in Germany 19% at the moment). Anyway I have to pay income tax, maybe 30-35 %. That means 4,- Dollars (or Euro) at most remaining for me (I cannot draw off the costs for I had loss for the past 3 years and then the fiscal authorities don?t accept this anymore; they tell you it?s just your hobby, you don?t intend to make profits at all).

At the moment I feel like I have done my contribution to this theme. Sometimes I am a little bit sad, but even more I am glad that I put down business. Besides it is better for the concentration on my regular job (?which finally financed my activities).

I agree with you. But you can charge whatever looks feasible to you. Atleast people like me who are interested in buying the clips will buy irresective of the cost.

[ocatcher]

Originally Posted by rflcblue

Hello filmguy,

Thank you for trying to begin this thread. I could write a long posting with details of my thoughts, also with information about my work ?another time. Here are 2 notions:

1. One thing is to explain the lift and carry fans about the background and the difficulties to offer lift and carry videos online as a viable business in order to make them more sensitive against abuse and more open to support producers.

2. Another thing is not to discourage those enthusiasts, who are only 1-2 steps away from offering their stuff online by telling them how complicated and senseless it is (no viable business possible). This would be a shame.

I agree with CMCWmod concerning the wildly divided community and their fondness for different l&c-details and also with Dendrin concerning the combination of fetishes for making a project viable. Maybe you consider that too much professionalism (one girl for all fetishes) does not guarantee the best l&c-result (see Homoancients posting about his balloonfetish-video). Probably there are people who are curious to offer their own content, though they know they cannot become rich of it. Is it possible to find a balance between hobby and business?

I finally do not regret at all, what I did with shecarries. This was a damned thrilling time, a spice in my live, a counterpart of my straining job and I was also glad when a couple of customers told me they like the videos, I only just earned nothing.

Thank you and best regards,

Jo.
(www.shecarries.com)

hey i recently tried to buy the clips on your site but it's down, anyway for me to buy and download some of the clip batches again?

[intolnc]

Originally Posted by ocatcher

hey i recently tried to buy the clips on your site but it's down, anyway for me to buy and download some of the clip batches again?

Hi, I second this question. I once had all the video pools of your site, but had a hard disk crash a while ago and lost every last bit of it. Very sad that there's no possibility now to get anything back.