Mebalshaw, I gotta agree a hundred percent with that. Before the internet, I used to try to convince my daughter's (girl) friends to lift and carry one another. Fortunately, she was a cheerleader and her friends were usually pretty athletic, and sporty enough to do it. It was the best I could do at the time, and one or two lifts a MONTH was all I could realistically hope for. Then the net and the DtV site, and it's been pretty good since then!