At what age were you into L & C

[zebra]

Originally Posted by nkl84

I really hope, you will find possibilities to make lovely lifting experiences in your adult life. Fingers crossed!

For me, it still is so fascinating. It really never gets old and boring. And, I think it is possible to "attract" being lifted just by allowing oneself to be open and, most importantly, to feel not ashamed for asking it or opening up about it. It is, after all, such a harmless thing, I'd think.

I agree with you. It's a rather harmless activity, although some people try to pathologize it like it's a mental problem or a social taboo. It's fine if it's kept in perspective and there's no obsession. It's not even a real fetish if you don't need it in order to become aroused.

I always wanted my girlfriend or my wife to have a lifting and wrestling session, but I never had the guts to mention it. I thought that there was a slight chance that they would freak out over it. I showed a F/F lifting tape to a date back in the day, and she was really turned off by it. I acted like it confused me too.

I put an ad in a small alt newspaper way back when that was a thing. I asked to meet women who were into lift and carry. A girl called, and she said that she liked to do that with her girlfriend and that I should join them. She didn't leave a contact number!

[nkl84]

Originally Posted by zebra

I agree with you. It's a rather harmless activity, although some people try to pathologize it like it's a mental problem or a social taboo. It's fine if it's kept in perspective and there's no obsession. It's not even a real fetish if you don't need it in order to become aroused.

I always wanted my girlfriend or my wife to have a lifting and wrestling session, but I never had the guts to mention it. I thought that there was a slight chance that they would freak out over it. I showed a F/F lifting tape to a date back in the day, and she was really turned off by it. I acted like it confused me too.

I put an ad in a small alt newspaper way back when that was a thing. I asked to meet women who were into lift and carry. A girl called, and she said that she liked to do that with her girlfriend and that I should join them. She didn't leave a contact number!

I completely understand your situation and I also agree to your view that it is not a real fetish, since it is not needed to be aroused. I also think that the phenomenon involves much more than a sexual aspect: For example: emotional relief, handing over control to another person, a feeling of security, which is so intense, that it is normally not reachable in adult life.

In various longer or shorter relationships, I only had one explicitly negative experience (in this case I asked for a little bit of wrestling). In the biggest part the reactions were positive to very positive, maybe neutral in a few cases, but - apart from this one case - always friendly.

Maybe try contact improvisation classes? Or a "thai and fly" or "therapeutic flying" massage? I also was once lifted by a professional cuddler. I really hope you get to experience being lifted soon.

[zebra]

Originally Posted by nkl84

I completely understand your situation and I also agree to your view that it is not a real fetish, since it is not needed to be aroused. I also think that the phenomenon involves much more than a sexual aspect: For example: emotional relief, handing over control to another person, a feeling of security, which is so intense, that it is normally not reachable in adult life.

In various longer or shorter relationships, I only had one explicitly negative experience (in this case I asked for a little bit of wrestling). In the biggest part the reactions were positive to very positive, maybe neutral in a few cases, but - apart from this one case - always friendly.

Maybe try contact improvisation classes? Or a "thai and fly" or "therapeutic flying" massage? I also was once lifted by a professional cuddler. I really hope you get to experience being lifted soon.

Those are good points (emotional aspects of lifting). I think that the breaking of taboos plays a part too. I and a second forum member think that it isn't "manly" to be in the role of the liftee. He's more strict than I am, though.

It wouldn't really bother me to be lifted and carried by a woman, even a bigger and stronger one. Frankly, the embarrassment might be a turn-on. That means that I'm not REALLY that against it. It's not THAT much of a taboo.

I've been this way since I was a kid. Then, bigger and stronger older female cousins would lift and carry me, and one of my dad's friend's daughters would too. It was a semi-taboo, but I still enjoyed it. You don't have much of a choice if they're four to eight years older before you turn 13.

I would have definitely had a session with a Las Vegas professional lifter when I was in my early twenties. She was known to be one of the best in lifts and carries. I would have met up with the women who messaged me without a contact number too because they wanted to have me join their lifting fun. I'm still not averse to the idea.

[nkl84]

Originally Posted by zebra

Those are good points (emotional aspects of lifting). I think that the breaking of taboos plays a part too. I and a second forum member think that it isn't "manly" to be in the role of the liftee. He's more strict than I am, though.

It wouldn't really bother me to be lifted and carried by a woman, even a bigger and stronger one. Frankly, the embarrassment might be a turn-on. That means that I'm not REALLY that against it. It's not THAT much of a taboo.

I've been this way since I was a kid. Then, bigger and stronger older female cousins would lift and carry me, and one of my dad's friend's daughters would too. It was a semi-taboo, but I still enjoyed it. You don't have much of a choice if they're four to eight years older before you turn 13.

I would have definitely had a session with a Las Vegas professional lifter when I was in my early twenties. She was known to be one of the best in lifts and carries. I would have met up with the women who messaged me without a contact number too because they wanted to have me join their lifting fun. I'm still not averse to the idea.

Thank you, I fully understand your thoughts. I more than once had the situation, that I was lifted by a bigger and stronger woman in public, and I also had this feeling, that the embarrassment was a turn-on. I also think, it is "manly" to enjoy being lifted by a strong female, since it means, that there is enough self-confidence to show weakness. Childhood experiences are also wonderful, I remember, that I have a few, too, for example a piggyback in primary school.

Regarding a lift&carry session: The ones I had (plenty) were always great, even though an (unplanned) lift in a daily situation without a commercial/professional background is for me even a bit more intense. On the other hand, a lift&carry session from a very strong woman is something magical in another sense/in another function (for example with Xena, https://landcforum.com/showpost.php?...9&postcount=17)

[nkl84]

Originally Posted by zebra

Those are good points (emotional aspects of lifting). I think that the breaking of taboos plays a part too. I and a second forum member think that it isn't "manly" to be in the role of the liftee. He's more strict than I am, though.

It wouldn't really bother me to be lifted and carried by a woman, even a bigger and stronger one. Frankly, the embarrassment might be a turn-on. That means that I'm not REALLY that against it. It's not THAT much of a taboo.

I've been this way since I was a kid. Then, bigger and stronger older female cousins would lift and carry me, and one of my dad's friend's daughters would too. It was a semi-taboo, but I still enjoyed it. You don't have much of a choice if they're four to eight years older before you turn 13.

I would have definitely had a session with a Las Vegas professional lifter when I was in my early twenties. She was known to be one of the best in lifts and carries. I would have met up with the women who messaged me without a contact number too because they wanted to have me join their lifting fun. I'm still not averse to the idea.

Thank you, these are super interesting aspects for me. There is also such a feeling in me, that I might be seen as not manly when being carried - whereas I also would rather, like you, not be too strict in this respect. And, in this respect, I fully understand that the embarrassment can be a turn on. I was sometimes carried by a tall (approximately 2 cm taller than I am) and strong woman in public with other people (and also all of her friends regularly) seeing it. Particularly in these moments, exactly this feeling came up, but it also ignited fascination in me and made it even more intense to surrender to her strength.

Furthermore, I share the feeling you had as a kid. It was very similar in my life.

Is the Las Vegas professional lifter still active?

[zebra]

Originally Posted by nkl84

Thank you, these are super interesting aspects for me. There is also such a feeling in me, that I might be seen as not manly when being carried - whereas I also would rather, like you, not be too strict in this respect. And, in this respect, I fully understand that the embarrassment can be a turn on. I was sometimes carried by a tall (approximately 2 cm taller than I am) and strong woman in public with other people (and also all of her friends regularly) seeing it. Particularly in these moments, exactly this feeling came up, but it also ignited fascination in me and made it even more intense to surrender to her strength.

Furthermore, I share the feeling you had as a kid. It was very similar in my life.

Is the Las Vegas professional lifter still active?

I had no choice in the matter. One cousin (eight years older) tossed me back and forth with her friend when I was five, one girl (four years older) cradle carried me and a girl before she rolled us down a hill when we were around six, one cousin (five years older) carried me over her shoulder against my will because I refused to come into the house when I was eight, and one cousin (six months younger) straight lifted me before she carried me to a distant spot in the yard when I was thirteen. She was stronger than most boys her age. I enjoyed the broken taboos!

The L&C pro retired at some point in time. Those sessions can create a lot of wear and tear on one's body over the years. I would have loved a lifting session with her. The "older woman" aspect would have been a bonus.

[nkl84]

Originally Posted by zebra

I had no choice in the matter. One cousin (eight years older) tossed me back and forth with her friend when I was five, one girl (four years older) cradle carried me and a girl before she rolled us down a hill when we were around six, one cousin (five years older) carried me over her shoulder against my will because I refused to come into the house when I was eight, and one cousin (six months younger) straight lifted me before she carried me to a distant spot in the yard when I was thirteen. She was stronger than most boys her age. I enjoyed the broken taboos!

The L&C pro retired at some point in time. Those sessions can create a lot of wear and tear on one's body over the years. I would have loved a lifting session with her. The "older woman" aspect would have been a bonus.

I was carried one-two times as a kid in primary school - my only experiences before being a grown up. As a kid, it was such a great feeling for me.
Did you ever look for a similar session experience with another woman? I understand the "older-woman-aspect" very well. While in my 20s and early 30, there sometimes were situations in which I was lifted/carried by older women, feeling security and the aspect of "letting go" emotionally on a particularly high level. :-)

[zebra]

Originally Posted by nkl84

Wow, these must have been fundamental experiences. Particularly the experience when you were 13. I was carried one-two times in primary school - my only experiences before the age of 22-23.
Did you ever look for a similar session experience with another woman? I understand the "older-woman-aspect" very well.

It really was a fundamental experience. She was bigger and stronger than me, and I wasn't sickly or weak. She likely had the strength of a college man. She carried a man who was around 220 pounds! She liked to lift boys and men for some reason. She straight lifted a third cousin's twenty-something boyfriend from behind when he wasn't aware (like my situation). She carried her twin brother (really her little brother) all of the time. I just got that one lift, which was very disappointing because she could have lifted me in a zillion ways since I was very light for her.

I toyed with the idea of a lifting and/or wrestling session. I especially wanted my SO to have one, but I never broached the subject, out of fear. I came close to likely having one with two girls after I placed an ad in a local alternative paper, but she never left a contact number in her reply! Unlike you, I've never been lifted in my adult life, so your posts are vicarious thrills.