Questions for other produers from a new producer

[ToneDog]

I'm very glad to have come across a place on the web where I can freely discuss my interests in Lift and carry. My interest is Female on female lifts, I'm mainly interested in seeing large female body builders dominate and overhead press small Barbie doll type girls. So far I have been very disappointed with the complete lack of available content to the point that I am seriously planning on making my own. I know I am far from the only person out there who feels this way. My dream scenario would be Amber Steel or Jana Linke Sippl tossing around Layla Rose or Katarina Hartlova (porn stars, google them). The closet thing I have seen coming close to what I envision is something like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB7IYFCLRzc) Of course I never done anything like so I have a TON of questions for producers that have. any tips, suggestions or experience stories would be greatly appreciated.
1. Where is the best place to locate female body builders to book appointments for movies and what is the typical going rate? Do they often request a percentage of sales?
2. Speaking of sales what is the usual amount return on clips4sale.com? I do hope to keep making these after all, but this is a very niche genre. I have no desire to make money off of this, I just want to make the content for myself and others out there.
3. Budget. so far I have about 3K on hand for this, I am willing to take out a loan if it can be paid back. I have a good job as a mechanic but I'm far from rich, one man funding essentially a small movie is difficult. What is the typical amount of money spent on these things and is return enough to keep making more?
4.what about victims? I have seen porn stars before in L & C videos, and would use something like metrotalentmanagement.com or LA models direct. I would like to have sexual materiel involved but I'm willing to shelve it to focus on lifts if it becomes a problem. Where do you find your victims?
5. (last one kinda off topic) Does anyone know what happened to petersvids.co.uk, he had some real great lifts on there. Was ready to buy everything then the whole site disappeared, and I can't find those clips anywhere.
PS. I am new to this board and if I am breaking any rules here I sincerely apologize, please let me know so I can delete this post. I am not trying to lose my membership status.

[greybeezer]

No you are fine with this post don't see anything wrong with asking. I have never produced a L&C vid but a good place to start looking for lifters for you video would be wb270 they have a list of women who travel and do private sessions, I am sure some of them would be willing to shot for you.

Have you thought about using amature models from sites like model mayhem for your liftees would probably be more cost effective for startup, having two known talents in your video would probably cost more then just one.

Here is a link to wb270 you will find a master list of women who offer private sessions with contact info it will at least allow you to contact a few and see what costs and willingness would be.

http://wb270.com/

[bigliftskinny]

I'm very glad to have come across a place on the web where I can freely discuss my interests in Lift and carry. My interest is Female on female lifts, I'm mainly interested in seeing large female body builders dominate and overhead press small Barbie doll type girls. So far I have been very disappointed with the complete lack of available content to the point that I am seriously planning on making my own. I know I am far from the only person out there who feels this way. My dream scenario would be Amber Steel or Jana Linke Sippl tossing around Layla Rose or Katarina Hartlova (porn stars, google them). The closet thing I have seen coming close to what I envision is something like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB7IYFCLRzc) Of course I never done anything like so I have a TON of questions for producers that have. any tips, suggestions or experience stories would be greatly appreciated.
1. Where is the best place to locate female body builders to book appointments for movies and what is the typical going rate? Do they often request a percentage of sales?
2. Speaking of sales what is the usual amount return on clips4sale.com? I do hope to keep making these after all, but this is a very niche genre. I have no desire to make money off of this, I just want to make the content for myself and others out there.
3. Budget. so far I have about 3K on hand for this, I am willing to take out a loan if it can be paid back. I have a good job as a mechanic but I'm far from rich, one man funding essentially a small movie is difficult. What is the typical amount of money spent on these things and is return enough to keep making more?
4.what about victims? I have seen porn stars before in L & C videos, and would use something like metrotalentmanagement.com or LA models direct. I would like to have sexual materiel involved but I'm willing to shelve it to focus on lifts if it becomes a problem. Where do you find your victims?
5. (last one kinda off topic) Does anyone know what happened to petersvids.co.uk, he had some real great lifts on there. Was ready to buy everything then the whole site disappeared, and I can't find those clips anywhere.
PS. I am new to this board and if I am breaking any rules here I sincerely apologize, please let me know so I can delete this post. I am not trying to lose my membership status.

I am with you.... I love big girls versus little girls... But for my taste, I like the victims to be skinny and small tits... D?nt like the one with big tits to be tossed around and dominated...

These are the ones I would choose for to be lifted and ragdolled by the big strong amazons:

Brooke Skye, Marissa Mendoza, Jessie Palmer, Kitty; mya Mason...... those kind of skinny little girls...
Roxy Rivers http://www.xvideos.com/video408940/roxy_rivers




Keep us updated. I am into this kind of topic... And there are more people the same as me in this forum interested in your topic.

[aloknath]

Good luck with your venture. I would buy FF videos of bigger women tossing around smaller ones. I second the suggestion that you look on modelmayhem for liftees.

[bigliftskinny]

Good luck with your venture. I would buy FF videos of bigger women tossing around smaller ones. I second the suggestion that you look on modelmayhem for liftees.

I would buy the clips too!:drool:

[oksens]

God bless you ToneDog!!!

Finally someone wanting to make videos with the only real hard lifts!!! If you need suggestions about lifts, plots and so on, don't hesitate to contact me!

I can give you an advice: if you put the clips on clips4sale don't make them too expensive. Because of human psychology, one tends more to buy several videos if they cost up to 10$, but thinks 10 times before buying one which cost 15, 20 and so on. So, better a lot of clips with low price than a few with high price, trust me! :)

I hope you will fulfill your and our wishes mate, I wish you good luck!!!

[jvzann]

Hi Tonedog

I've never produced my own lift and carry vids so I'm afraid I have no advice but I was just wondering if you were still going ahead with your venture? I hope you do, I would buy them for sure :thumbup1::thumbup1:

[ToneDog]

So far I have talked to Jana Linke Sippl and she declined, I'm waiting to hear back from Amber steel and Tazzie Colomb (the ONEs to get in my opinion), Getting the liftees is the easy part but finding large enough female body builders to do the hard lifts and being able to correlate their schedule with mine is much more challenging But yea I'm still working on it. Hopefully you guys will see something within the next few months.

[jvzann]

So far I have talked to Jana Linke Sippl and she declined, I'm waiting to hear back from Amber steel and Tazzie Colomb (the ONEs to get in my opinion), Getting the liftees is the easy part but finding large enough female body builders to do the hard lifts and being able to correlate their schedule with mine is much more challenging But yea I'm still working on it. Hopefully you guys will see something within the next few months.

Great Tonedog, looking forward to it :thumbup2:
Good luck!

[greatlifting]

God bless you ToneDog!!!

Finally someone wanting to make videos with the only real hard lifts!!! If you need suggestions about lifts, plots and so on, don't hesitate to contact me!

I can give you an advice: if you put the clips on clips4sale don't make them too expensive. Because of human psychology, one tends more to buy several videos if they cost up to 10$, but thinks 10 times before buying one which cost 15, 20 and so on. So, better a lot of clips with low price than a few with high price, trust me! :)

I hope you will fulfill your and our wishes mate, I wish you good luck!!!

It's not like i'm not respecting you, or all other lift and cary fans!!!!
But what are you saying there my dear friend is just a view of the customer?s side.
Have you any idea of how much does it cost to produce a lift and carry video with an amateur? OR with a pro ?
I'm pretty sure you don't!
Yes i'm pretty sure everyone will be one my head right now (producers and fans), don't mean to disrespect anyone but the things are not so easy as they look!
I wish ToneDog a very good welcome in the business, and hope to see a clip from his studio quite soon!
To have a maximum 10 usd price video means the video needs to have 9 mintes, so the price will be 9.99!
From 9.99 minus c4s fee you need to sell this video a lot to have some money as profit.. If you use a pro , without the travel expenses, it will cost you 300-400 usd!!!!
So tell me my dear friend, where is the profit? (or at least how can you take your money back?)
Let's say your are filming 1 hour!
You are cuting the clip in 6 pieces (10 minutes each), this means 10.99 (or 9.99, can not remember exactly)!
What can you understand from a 10 minutes video, that is a small part from a 60 minutes video????
Are you only glad to see some lifts and thats all?
I beleave it is more interesting to see the a story ? (for me it is for sure)
So why to have a 10 minutes shitty video when you can have a 15 minutes very good video?
Just my personal opinion and I don?t not want to upset anyone!
(Not calculate the clothes, food, drinks and any other stuff involved in a lift and carry clip)
Wish you all a nice ride!
Kisses
Caty

[minimaxde]

Hi,

I would buy those clips with muscular women lifting petite ones too. It is a great idea and good luck for you. You should try this and I think, you will find some strong girls on the sites of strongwomen, wrestlers and bodybuilders. There are some elder clips with this theme, but these are not many clips.

All the best

Minimax

[greybeezer]

What can you understand from a 10 minutes video, that is a small part from a 60 minutes video????
Are you only glad to see some lifts and thats all?
I beleave it is more interesting to see the a story ? (for me it is for sure)
So why to have a 10 minutes shitty video when you can have a 15 minutes very good video?
Just my personal opinion and I don?t not want to upset anyone!
(Not calculate the clothes, food, drinks and any other stuff involved in a lift and carry clip)
Wish you all a nice ride!
Kisses
Caty

The reason most lift and carry fans like the smaller videos is that they are only interested in one lift so buying a $15 plus dollar clip to get one minute or less of the lift that they like is more then they are willing to spend.

[Cary Herr]

I've made a few private non commercial lift and carry videos but I've decided to go commercial with it. I'd like to know if you have to be 2257 compliant even without any nudity or sex. Just men lifting beautiful women in bikinis mostly front straddle style lifts which are my favorite kind. Any help will be appreciated.

[ToneDog]

I lost my job, it was a pretty damn good one and now I'm forced to return to being a full time college student (which might be a good thing in the long run as I decided to pursue an engineering degree). needless to say its going to be years before I have the financial resources to produce the videos we L&C fans really want to see (big strong women tossing around barbie dolls), before this happened I had been in contact with Amber De Luca and she declined because she felt she would be competing against herself for sales (which is utterly ridiculous because she puts out very little content in this area and its not very good), but I'm sure if someone were to put up enough $$ she would change her mind. also Tazzie Colomb never returned my emails. I still intend to make these videos someday but I truly hope someone else can take up the mantle and produce the content that we really want to see...

[dendrin]

I lost my job, it was a pretty damn good one and now I'm forced to return to being a full time college student (which might be a good thing in the long run as I decided to pursue an engineering degree). needless to say its going to be years before I have the financial resources to produce the videos we L&C fans really want to see (big strong women tossing around barbie dolls), before this happened I had been in contact with Amber De Luca and she declined because she felt she would be competing against herself for sales (which is utterly ridiculous because she puts out very little content in this area and its not very good), but I'm sure if someone were to put up enough $$ she would change her mind. also Tazzie Colomb never returned my emails. I still intend to make these videos someday but I truly hope someone else can take up the mantle and produce the content that we really want to see...

Sorry to hear you lost your job. As for the videos, I question how much interest there would be in f/f lifts with body builders. From my experience the f/f crowd desires normal girls lifting more than bodybuilders but I could be wrong, you can always take a survey here with a poll.

[ToneDog]

my evidence lies with clips4sales, as soon as big F/ little F lift and carry comes out it shoots straight to the top in popularity (in the Amazons and lift and carry sections), right now theres one with Amber Deluca and a small girl and its the top clip right now in the amazon section. also Bunny Glamazons videos with smaller girls seem to be very popular also. but because there is very little content in this area (and few capable of making it) it is easily overshadowed by the regular girl stuff

[oksens]

my evidence lies with clips4sales, as soon as big F/ little F lift and carry comes out it shoots straight to the top in popularity (in the Amazons and lift and carry sections), right now theres one with Amber Deluca and a small girl and its the top clip right now in the amazon section. also Bunny Glamazons videos with smaller girls seem to be very popular also. but because there is very little content in this area (and few capable of making it) it is easily overshadowed by the regular girl stuff

I confirm that, such a shame you lost your job, I hope everything goes better in the future!