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mark.johnson21 · May 7th, 2010, 04:29

Very much agreed!

SKW is a good site, and it's pretty "soft" in comparison to other similar sites, but I mean, it's beautiful girls in bikinis and thongs and specialty heroine costumes wrestling each other - of course it's for fetish/sexual purposes! Though, I wouldn't quite put it in the same category as something like "Lift-Life" as that's way more explicit.

I understand the not wanting to be thought of as being a part of the fetish market - that seems to stigmatically denote sleaziness somehow. I mean there's nude lift and carry, and there's clothed lift and carrry, and one of them is sleazier than the other.

It's actually very similar to strippers calling themselves "professional dancers" or paparzzi workers who call themselves "licensed photographers" to try and hide what they really are. It's basically living in denial, it seems.

Just like a professional female wrestler claiming that she's a professional wrestler and nothing more. If that's the case, why are almost all female professional wrestlers in extremely good shape with breast implants, and why are they scantily clad while wrestling other girls in bra and panties matches? Don't get me wrong - they're very talented to be able to do professional wrestling as it looks very difficult to do - but come on! Even Molly Holly said in an interview that she and the other women are mostly there for eye candy!

aloknath · May 7th, 2010, 06:55

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Originally Posted by mark.johnson21

Very much agreed!

Just like a professional female wrestler claiming that she's a professional wrestler and nothing more. If that's the case, why are almost all female professional wrestlers in extremely good shape with breast implants, and why are they scantily clad while wrestling other girls in bra and panties matches? Don't get me wrong - they're very talented to be able to do professional wrestling as it looks very difficult to do - but come on! Even Molly Holly said in an interview that she and the other women are mostly there for eye candy!

Well I wouldnt go so far as to say it about all female pro wrestlers. It's true that in the WWE where Molly Holly worked, they are mainly eye candy. However, the indie wrestling scene (which is where many of the wrestlers who do stuff like session wrestling or custom tapes come from) is primarily about the sport. Those ladies work really hard and they only do this fetish related stuff cos indie wrestling does not pay very well. They drive hours to wrestle tough matches where they get paid a hundred or two hundred bucks a pop. So they have to supplement their income with this disguised fetish stuff. But since they're wrestlers primarily and don't want to think of themselves as fetish workers, they are a little in denial (some of them) about the fact that some of their work is being consumed just by people who have sexual interest in the activity and don't care about athletic skill.

mark.johnson21 · May 7th, 2010, 19:02

Fair point - that does not apply to every female wrestler. There are plenty who are fat and basically do not look anything like Trish Stratus and therefore do not appeal sexually at all. But for those who dress in almost nothing and basically look like street walkers (and I'm okay with that, mind you!), it definitely is for sexual reasons.

Thing is, though, if you take a wrestler on the Indy scene like Violet Flame - at first she has a one piece wrestling outfit and she seems a serious wrestler (which she is). But then on her website you see tons of pictures of her by a swimming pool in a bikini flexing, and well... you tend to wonder.

aloknath · May 8th, 2010, 03:56

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Originally Posted by mark.johnson21

Thing is, though, if you take a wrestler on the Indy scene like Violet Flame - at first she has a one piece wrestling outfit and she seems a serious wrestler (which she is). But then on her website you see tons of pictures of her by a swimming pool in a bikini flexing, and well... you tend to wonder.

Well that is my point. The indie wrestlers are real athletes who take wrestling seriously but since they cannot make a living at indie wrestling, they have to do things like bikini shoots and custom tapes for a fetish audience.

mark.johnson21 · May 8th, 2010, 04:06

Very true - it actually reminds me of former GLOW and WWE champ Ivory/Tina Ferrari doing a video for one of the original wrestling/lift and carry companies in which she wrestles a female bodybuilder in a field.

aloknath · May 8th, 2010, 18:49

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Originally Posted by mark.johnson21

Very true - it actually reminds me of former GLOW and WWE champ Ivory/Tina Ferrari doing a video for one of the original wrestling/lift and carry companies in which she wrestles a female bodybuilder in a field.

Ivory was in a lift/carry video??? That I'd like to see. Do you remember what site it was on?

mark.johnson21 · May 8th, 2010, 21:29

Here you go:

I love the part at around 1:50 - it's almost a jock-lock wedgie. I'm afraid there are no lifts in this, though I could have sworn I saw a longer version where there's a bodyslam lift towards the end. Perhaps Ivory was wrestling a different girl in that clip - I seem to remember a purple leotard, and the location was the same.

tragmich · May 9th, 2010, 00:30

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Originally Posted by ashok

Ivory was in a lift/carry video??? That I'd like to see. Do you remember what site it was on?

It?s a wrestling video. By Bill Wick.

May 7th, 2010, 04:29	#1
mark.johnson21 VIP Honored Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 323 : 0 For This Post 162 Total	Very much agreed! SKW is a good site, and it's pretty "soft" in comparison to other similar sites, but I mean, it's beautiful girls in bikinis and thongs and specialty heroine costumes wrestling each other - of course it's for fetish/sexual purposes! Though, I wouldn't quite put it in the same category as something like "Lift-Life" as that's way more explicit. I understand the not wanting to be thought of as being a part of the fetish market - that seems to stigmatically denote sleaziness somehow. I mean there's nude lift and carry, and there's clothed lift and carrry, and one of them is sleazier than the other. It's actually very similar to strippers calling themselves "professional dancers" or paparzzi workers who call themselves "licensed photographers" to try and hide what they really are. It's basically living in denial, it seems. Just like a professional female wrestler claiming that she's a professional wrestler and nothing more. If that's the case, why are almost all female professional wrestlers in extremely good shape with breast implants, and why are they scantily clad while wrestling other girls in bra and panties matches? Don't get me wrong - they're very talented to be able to do professional wrestling as it looks very difficult to do - but come on! Even Molly Holly said in an interview that she and the other women are mostly there for eye candy! Last edited by mark.johnson21; June 24th, 2010 at 21:36.

May 7th, 2010, 19:02	#3
mark.johnson21 VIP Honored Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 323 : 0 For This Post 162 Total	Fair point - that does not apply to every female wrestler. There are plenty who are fat and basically do not look anything like Trish Stratus and therefore do not appeal sexually at all. But for those who dress in almost nothing and basically look like street walkers (and I'm okay with that, mind you!), it definitely is for sexual reasons. Thing is, though, if you take a wrestler on the Indy scene like Violet Flame - at first she has a one piece wrestling outfit and she seems a serious wrestler (which she is). But then on her website you see tons of pictures of her by a swimming pool in a bikini flexing, and well... you tend to wonder.

May 8th, 2010, 04:06	#5
mark.johnson21 VIP Honored Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 323 : 0 For This Post 162 Total	Very true - it actually reminds me of former GLOW and WWE champ Ivory/Tina Ferrari doing a video for one of the original wrestling/lift and carry companies in which she wrestles a female bodybuilder in a field.